Outrageous Oral, Volume 1: Penny Krispin

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this my name's penny Crispin

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and I'm gonna talk a little bit about to the old days

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when I was known as nurse pickle taking care of

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HIV patients here in Dallas um

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I graduated from Baylor nursing school in 83

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and rented a little garage apartment from a little lady in commerce

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and is very sad her son had died two years earlier

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and my mother said he had died of cancer and she told me that he was a very

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I'm artful designer later on

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when I moved to Dallas I was told by

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Simona de Chile and now some the doctors here that he was a first got it done

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amazing Taos County

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so unbeknownst to me that was my first

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brush with HIV and

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I I graduated from nursing school 183

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and I went to the ice you in the ER work

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and that was my passion and I loved it but

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one day they were short on the cancer for it was about 1985 I guess

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and they said to there's a clinic patient in there is names for

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islam's George his clinic patient his primary K

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you know just but he's got a dynamite a crash never taken care from

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aids patients but before water you know I needed a little bit a report with that

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never

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done it and a nice to you work in the right we come out of the room

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go in with a mask love Gale everything when you come out no matter where it is

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true at the Red

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hazard be in Soho where trays everything

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so I walk into the room and this guy has gone down so

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pajamas I'm like helping this is a clinic Medicaid patient the guy was

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feel plea rich okay he could've bought and sold every nurse on the unit

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and so I thought you know I don't know what this is all about

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I'm not you know we haven't been in service stone

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this is intriguing to me wanna hear the nurses said

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you wanna make some extra money course idea she said you should go into home

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care

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and you can just do a few extra visits when you're not in the ICU

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and so I got a job at home care company

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and when the first patients I saw was out on current

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Boulevard workman's comp case and and if you know where that is but it out

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South Dallas in I would have to call you in telling what

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how I was going to arrive at his doorstep so he can hold his gun out

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where everyone else in the apartment complex could see

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so that I could run to his door

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and get inside safely roaches crawl over my feet like trying to do is visit

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I was like okay you know what this is my job somebody's got to do it on the nurse

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come back and they say I'm would do you think you might be interested in seeing

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people with HIV

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and I said sure yeah actually had case I'm

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I'm fairly familiar with it so they handed me the entire

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aids docket now I'd like to think it was because I was a good nurses probably

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because I had a burger here

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get I'm not sure but I went from

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gun waving in South Dallas to the first apartment I walked into

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for my first HIV case was a three storey condominium

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decorated movie deporting I was home

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so i thought okay I want to put these patients on me I'm

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in absolute splendor and glamour they're making me tea and coffee in

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crumpets and I've never tasted before what's the deal here

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so I sensed

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you know a.m. reticence on their part

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some kind of problem with T treating people with HIV which

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I could imagine because I thought I had just laid in the most parched job

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I ever had in my life so

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the pharmacist said me you know you seem to have a knack for this and other words

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you look like a lesbian

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why don't we

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starter on company because they obviously don't you know this is

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certainly

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early do in you know for the money anyway so let's do it

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so we started a small company we didn't have very much money would put it

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together we've got our shingle we had to buy so many drugs to open up our

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pharmacy in everything

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we're almost flat broke doctor robert fan called me

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well let me back up a minute my next door neighbor was gray mclean

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and we were as I say we're about to go broke

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an open eve you know gramm he was on very handsome Australian doctor MD PhD

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from Australia and he just happened to be a resident

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and and Methodius when I was a nurse the ring he

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came over for dinner one night he said there's a treatment in San Francisco

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that is an aerosol treatment it has virtually no side affects

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and it will stop PCP well at the time

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you know if I had a patient with PCP

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I usually didn't have 'em a second time it was that very much and that

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tough to treat in that to to keep from coming back

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so he gave me the protocol and simply because we were such a small company we

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had no red tape to go through

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and since we're only three of us I went and got a

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compressor about the size of the speaker appear and

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within one week we were given your serpentine treatments

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we still were almost broke in doctor robert fine call me in said

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a patient man has told me you have a treatment available that I think might

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be appropriate for his name is Terry T mando

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and sell we started treating

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Terry had was recovering from one poem at the time in

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I'm told people many occasions when we're about to go down that

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during his first check from his insurance came

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to our company and the rest was history

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he and a and bill where both my patients and a

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were not only my patience but they were mine stronger said the kurds

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but they saw how benign treatment was the few side effects at hand in how

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whale

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Terry recovering from it and %uh they said they need to be offering this

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parkland because at the time we had no other treatment

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and so way in Weyburn in the dow scale on smackin

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several people went department and ask for the treatment and they were

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you know denied that sell the DTLA

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and I'm brought the nurses

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the pin Tam the machines by brought the patients and we started treating

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and so I guess it was about a year to year a year and a half when we treated

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prolly twenty-five patients every Wednesday night just once a month

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treatment so we treat a couple hundred people or more

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until park on begin to give the treatment until we we started realizing

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that

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aerosol paint a.m. could be replaced by a factor which was a much

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cheaper and much better tolerated treatment but I can tell you right now

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that I personally had patience

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that I cared for during that time that are still here today

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because up there and I'm not saying maybe

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I'm sayin because cats to in said

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you know what gonna take up the money we're going to raise it

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we're going to treat these guys and we're gonna we're gonna

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do our part to keep this thing alive and ideas

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a lot of people have asked me and was any legal

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her did you you know did you with your licensed

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jeopardy you're anything like that here's hoping to him was not approved

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for that indication but it was approved so it was not against the law

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we were in the paper we were on the news you know kinda showing

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park on for not being cure your sake could be

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but it was not against the law was against the law

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was the stockpiles medications

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that we kept for an issue on people nodding

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for people that didn't have insurance and stuff like that

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now leave you with the star a

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I was very concerned about my losses because it was my livelihood

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and a we did have this huge stockpile drugs and anybody that needed it

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could come and get it cuz a lot of people become allergic to be a survey

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stop this may change to their

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so we would keep in we would give people what they needed

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so I went to my grandmother who was my moral conscience

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at the time and i sat down

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you know how's the hell week

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keeper giving out this medicine these guys need there's no into place

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a lot number gonna get park on some other drugs are very expensive they

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won't get it there

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she said you know

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it's against the law for you to do that so there would be a crime

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but if you didn't do it that would be a sin

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a lot you know my brother died in 1992

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it's still hard I know it's hard for you

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and there are a lot of people here that were sick before him they're still alive

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today

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thank I want to thank you for this opportunity in this

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honor and them

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I stopped in HIV medicine in ninety-eight when

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nurses like me were needed as much because people were on appeal regimen

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so a lot of people read this i really think I'm stretch

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was gone but I'm back in urs picked

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to school so watch out